Are women biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?

Are women biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?
Of course any complaints that girls go for bad boys and jerks instantly labels one a nice guy beta males. To the extent that it is possible, I actually consider myself somewhat of an impartial outside observer. I was an omega jerk in JR and high school, and to an extent my whole psycho personality, worked and I had girls literally chasing me. A lot of it might have been self-delusion but some measures were objective. After that I was in nearly complete isolation in college. So I've never played the role of the bitter nice guy. I have NEVER done anything nice for a girl or anyone my entire life! So I think I have some claim to impartiality, and my position that my deep depression and heart anguish is purely on a metaphysical level.

I read a lot of PUA seduction Game literature. At first my logic was it pays to learn all tools of rhetoric, persuasion and oratory even if I intended to put it to different uses than PUA.

Anyway to put it at its simplest. In cavemen times women were just plaything rape slaves for the strongest ape. And that is what evolutionary psychology in chimpanzee and gorilla behavior proves. Now there might have been some brave women who defended their freedom to the death, but their selfish genes were lost to history. And the genes that all modern women have inherited is those who submit to the cruelest caveman with biggest club.

I don't know for me it is pretty hellish to live in a world where all men are sadists and all women are masochists.

According to PUA science male physical attractiveness barely matters at all, the only thing women find attractive is brute domination and sadism.

For the last year I've completely cut myself off from humanity. Who wants to live in a world of pure evil? Only evil is rewarded! Cruelty is the only virtue. What good is morality and ethics?

So I'd like an outside opinion do you feel that women are biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination?

Does the dating world going back to the new paleolithic age make life worthless?
Murdoch's theoretical journal which is the official ideology of America and thus the entire world has endorsed the evopsych worldview: The New Dating Game | The Weekly Standard

Now I'm sure no one will believe me, but this is NOT about me being a single virgin loser guy who can't get a date. More its about what kind of world we live in where evil is always rewarded. I can't live in a universe like that. Why bother to get a job and support oneself and live in brutal ruthless dog eat dog world of evil? My parents are going to throw me out in August since I wont get a job or school.

Its true I've always been kind of an anti-sexual puritan but evopsych just makes it more vicious.

I feel nothing for disgust for humanity. But thats what the Darwinian struggle for existence. Brutality is the only virtue. I'm what the Nazis would call life unworthy of life. Even if your content to be a lifelong virgin girls rewarding "bad boy" traits still affects the world you live in. I could not be more repulsed by humanity which is why I have cut myself off in complete isolation for nearly a year now.

I don't understand how the rest of humanity can endure such a world and assume its because they must ALL be blood-thirsty vampires themselves.

Although why glorify women as the victims? According to evopsych even when given freedom they will reward cruelty.

So there are no victims in this monstrous world just wolves eating wolves.

How do you endure this world? And what is your advice for me?

The Darwinian-Nietzschean struggle for existence means eat or be eaten, kill or be killed, harm or be harmed. I wish simply to neither dominate nor be dominated. But that is far too much to ask in this world on both counts.

Well in essence this IS about relationships. That is where evolutionary psychology is most obvious in daily life. While it is true I have no human relations, I'm still affected by the sexual stock market, the same way someone who owns no stock can be ruined by a crash.

Psychologists are humans like the rest of us, driven by the reptilian urges for sex and power and domination. There career choice is just there way of gaining domination in the Darwinian game. So I don't see therapists as some elite priestly caste free from evopsych. I don't want to be "fixed" into better being able to play the evolutionary game.

Since everyone here accepts the basic premises of evopsych, I ask how do YOU folks deal with it? Or do you all just accept the game, and try to be the winner? IF thats the case, then maybe your right and there can not be any dialogue between me and humanity.

I have not harmed anyone, except maybe my parents. My dad says I should be "altrusitic" and recover for my mom's sake.

First off my parents committed a massive injustice on me by bringing me into this cruel world just to satisfy that monster gene- Moloch.

Second them keeping me alive, is just their genes following their selfish interest to reproduce. I represent a major investment in their genes survival. My fall means a major decrease in their genese reproducing. So that is all there is to their so-called generosity to me. The longer they keep me fed, the longer the opportunity there is for me to pass their genes on. Granted thats a pretty miniscule chance for grandkids hiding and crying in the basement, but its higher than the chances if I starved on the street.

So what gratitude should I have to the selfish gene? The "altruism" in feeding and housing me is just the flip side of the selfishness of birthing me into an incredibly hellish universe.

Humanity wants to drive itself off a cliff. I listed my objections. Much wiser men than me have listed them in thick textbooks. Humanity wont listen to the wise men and certainly not to me. So fine. I have said my peace. Let humanity drive off the cliff, but I want no part in the adventure.

What good would having a girlfriend do me? Is the chimpanzee in me supposed to rejoice that as low as I may be in the hierarchy, I still have someone below me who I can hurt, torment, dominate and abuse?


I have no problem being driven out of the sexual marketplace. The problem is what "service" are we competing for? And it seems in the sexual market it is who can be the most brutal and cruel. Evopsych says getting a girlfriend comes down to demonstrating cruelty, domination, brutality, and sadism.


That is all I see in male-female relations and PUa science backs up my personal observations.

You drew a short straw in the genetic lottery. So did I. It sounds like you care about something in this world. Maybe it's some triumph, however small, over whatever you think is evil. This Polestar of yours could be a book, a relationship, or just independent living. For me, it's the quest to not be an ineffectual, immature moron. And art.

Look buddy, I obsessed about this shit for years and it got me nowhere but addiction and a mental hospital. I'm not saying you should forget about it-- your scars go far too deep for you to do that anyway. But maybe the way you're dealing with it is only hurting you.

 

Sebaline, you sound like a perfect candidate for the CoAlpha Brotherhood.  Let me try to answer your questions.

What kind of men are women attracted to?  The answer is simply those men who are evolutionarily optimal.  But what is optimal depends on the environment, and in the modern world, the environment is basically the culture.  In modern feminist culture, the optimal man is a stupid psychopath because he will have no moral qualms about screwing other men's wives and will be too stupid to use contraception.  What about in a state of nature or anarchy?  In such conditions, being ruthless is advantageous but being stupid is not.  So while women in modern feminist cultures are repulsed by intelligence, in the third world they aren't.  And since in the third world, women actually have to worry about survival, male provider traits are also valued.  This doesn't mean these women won't screw around and won't have some desire to have casual sex with successful psychopaths, but they will also value a relationship with a stable provider and will be willing to control their urge to have sex with psychopaths in order to land a stable provider.  Obviously this is still far from optimal, but it is still much better than feminist culture.

There is a third alternative to feminism and anarchy, and this is patriarchy.  This is based on men cooperating to be successful.  While an individual psychopath can beat an individual nice-guy, a group of nice-guys can beat a group of psychopaths because the psychopaths can't trust each other and can't cooperate.  Patriarchy is a system where decent men take over and outlaw psychopathic behavior.  In particular, adultery, meaning sex with other men's wives, is harshly punished.  In such a system, women are attracted to nice guys because nice guys rule.  Women are only attracted to psychopaths who can get away with it, and since psychopaths can't get away with much in a patriarchal system, women are not attracted to psychopaths in such a system.  Patriarchy is the exact opposite of feminism.  Under patriarchy, nice guys are the winners and psychopaths are the losers.  This is why patriarchy is the basis of all successful cultures in history.  When a culture stops being patriarchal, it begins to decline.  This concept of patriarchy may sound like a fantasy because it hardly exists in modern world.  But read history and you can see it in the early phases of all successful cultures.  For example, read Alexis de Tocqueville's comments or Gustave de Beaumon's comments on women in America in the early 1800s.  The Iliad and Odyssey are also great examples of the patriarchal values of Ancient Athens.

So now to answer your other questions.  Mainstream culture is basically psychopathic.  You owe it nothing.  Your parents are part of that culture (as are mine).  They cannot be helped or expected to understand.  I see only two rational ways to deal with life in the modern world.  One is too consciously be an immoral hedonist and grab all the hedonistic pleasure one can from this world without any regard for morality, since morality makes no sense in modern culture.  The other option is to reject modern culture and look for alternatives.  Alternatives include small religious sects like the Amish, Mennonites, and Hasidic Jews.  Since I am not religious, these options don't work for me, so my choice is the CoAlpha Brotherhood.

fschmidt pretty much summed it up.

You can view women as evil, good or neutral. When you view women as evil, you despair, the world looks meaningless and suicide looks like a pleasant escape. Every man ideally wants to view women as good. But the truth is women aren't evil or good, they're just neutral. Viewing women neutrally isn't the most satisfactory option, but it's a lot more mentally appeasing than viewing women as evil.

Women respond to environmental mechanisms. PUA is one environmental mechanism among many. If PUA was stripped down into individual parts, it would share the same family of parts for being reassembled into another environmental mechanism like patriarchy. Patriarchy is a superior environmental mechanism to PUA. The only reason PUA beats patriarchy in modern society is because patriarchy has become illegal. Patriarchy likes to market itself as a philosophy of survival of the fittest. But this could not be further from the truth. PUA requires massive amounts of laws to protect it. In the true wild, patriarchy slaughters PUA.