Elliot Rodger: Conclusion

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Elliot Rodger: Conclusion

ShaunS
After studying this topic for some time I have reached a conclusion.

On the left we have the Good Guys. On the right we have the Good Girls. And in the middle we have Fuck Heads.

The Good Girls do what they are supposed to do and look for the Good Guys but in glancing in their direction they see the Fuck Heads and get captured by them. They typically have six kids and get beaten up every night and it ends in divorce etc.

The Good Guys glance in the direction of the Good Girls but only see the female Fuck Heads in the middle and typically avoid or swear at them and remain in isolation.

The Government supports the Fuck Heads in the middle because the stupid population are very useful and generate a huge income, as well as democracy etc.

The State pretends that there is a society that will work for the Good Guys, but this is a lie. You can see that what is needed is a social culture suspended above the heads of the Fuck Heads in the middle, where the Good Guys and the Goods Girls can meet each other. And you can see that this would be elitist. Knowing that this is what is needed means that you can consider various methods and ask does this method avoid the Fuck Heads in the middle.

Arranged marriages typically arranged by the parents will bypass the Fuck Heads in the middle.
Expensive elitist dating agencies where both partners have to have lots of money will tend to work.
Class distinction was a way of avoiding the lower classes and would have worked.

Elliot Rodger was murdering people that he thought were the Fuck Heads. The social structure that he needed and that was implied to exist by the state was not present to any tangible degree. There was no group to help him, and therein lies the problem.

So... some people seem to be elitist by nature and this makes them behave much better than the common people. These are upper class people. Natural Princes and Princesses. Some social structure is needed to bring this Royalty together, but the Government supports scum instead. The problem here is that money is no indicator of status.
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ShaunS
So...

1. Naturally occuring elitism.

2. They don't know that they have this.

3. None of the regular social structures work for them.

4. After a time they become rather dangerous.

So these people think they are the same as everybody else. They then find that while the usual social order works for everybody else, it doesn't work for them. They then jump to the conclusion that it's everybody elses fault. Eventually they pound on the people around them.


ISIS
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Isis new that these people were out there. They new that with a little provocation and a little training they could be encouraged to murder the people around them where they lived. So they new that this tendency was naturally occuring and would occur in all the countries of the world. This was not just luck or percentages. Ready made 5th columnists that could be sparked to their cause.

Now how did they know this? It seems unlikely that the information came from the muslim religion as they were twisting that to their cause. It must have been some information that came from arabic culture itself. These people in the arabic world were being handled in some way? The arabs got on well with the Nazis so elitism was not frowned upon. We must assume that the information came from Saudi Arabia and that the arabs have a solution to this?

This means that arabic culture should be studied to find the answer.

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The Modern Jazz musician is a naturally occuring elitist. Using an instrument instead of a gun. Whether Mozart was an elitist is unclear. Modern HipHop might be viewed in a similar light.

In films Batman would be an elitist as would most of his villains. Daath Vader would be an elitist as would Luke Skywalker. Buffy The Vampire Slayer was a naturally occuring elitist trained to use weapons to kill an unseen enemy lurking in the background. An enemy that was a threat to the blood of the people. A Nazi element perhaps?

It seems that within the prevailing culture there are strands of an elitist subculture. The naturally occuring elitist needs to immerse himself within this elitist subculture for peace of mind. Some effort is required to identify these elitist strands so they can be brought together to provide an alternative to the prevailing culture. Otherwise the tendency is to try to destroy the prevailing culture.

*What happens in practice is that they tend to look for elitist organisations to belong to, such as Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, Muslim Terrorists, where they can then associate with like minded people.

What is needed is an elitist strand to handle socialising. In the case of prostitutes it is clear that this is the exact opposite of elitist. If we ask what is the opposite of the prostitute, the answer is the virgin and it is these virgins that are the reward for the muslim suicide bombers - presumably elitists.

Arabic culture may have elitist strands that are more useful?
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However... there is an intriguing loophole.

The natural elitist has no problem fitting into the working environment. They can get jobs. They can work and earn money. This is because the working environment is a Dictatorship, and as you'll realise Dictatorships are Elitist. The working environment has an elitist culture.

Both common and elitist people can be found in the working environment.

The implication is that the working environment can provide an opportunity for elite males and females to socialise. The secretary marries her boss. Parked cars away from the CCTV allow all sorts of things to happen. Currently these people risk getting the sack but the view is that it's a fledgling environment that needs to be developed further to allow social involvment within the working world. This I think is the correct answer.

Elliot Rodger was not employed. He stayed within the educational domains and those are where the prevailing culture is the strongest. So the educational world appears to have produced the prevailing culture. Public (private) schools generate Politicians that run our world so badly.

Any culture that could replace the existing culture and work for these elitist types, would have to be a working culture.
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The prevailing culture is caused by large crowds of people. I should say by regular crowds of people. It's not entirely clear how this happens but it's what they bring to the group in terms of fashions and attitudes.

It starts with the school playground. Then you have Cities and large shopping areas, night clubs, and audiences. School classes are audiences as are religious congregations. In the Cities we have the homeless, and these are elitists - isolated even within the crowd. Recently on TV (60 Days Homeless?) we had the example of a lady who was married at an early age, who had three children, but it didn't work out and so she was homeless on the streets of Manchester. This is an example of an elite female.

These crowds of people don't work for the naturally elite individual. What is needed is a uniform distribution of people. In a working environment the people are kept at their desks or workstations and are evenly distributed throughout the building. Tents on a camp site for example. Boats on a river for example. Socialisation occurs while traveling to and from the required point in the grid, and the people are separated by some moderate degree of physical barrier.

Audiences are a problem, if you can't have them then you can't have performances. However television is a distributed form of entertainment spread amongst people who are broadly distributed in the region, and as such is a Kosher part of the culture.

The naturally elite have a tendency to attack crowds as the obvious cause of their problems. Tower blocks (instead of discrete houses) are an example of crowds, hence the World Trade Centre attacks. So typically audiences are attacked.

The prevailing culture is bad and I say that in an absolute sense. The protesters in France for example.

Religions are not the answer because the congregations are just another audience.
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Consider the dynamic between the Performer and the Audience. The Performer has adopted an elitist culture while the Audience has the prevailing culture. The Performer has developed some form of superiority and uses this to entertain the Audience. He or she does something that they (the Audience) cannot easily do themselves. So this is a meeting point of two separate and different cultures. The culture of the elitist meets the prevailing culture.

If we look back to Elliot Rodger we have his videos and his manifesto. He was appealing to an Audience. If we look forwards to the recent NewZeland Mosque attacks we find the the white supremacist was using a head mounted camera to live stream his 'Performance' to the internet where presumably he had an Audience. The suggestion is that this interpretation is correct. The natural elitist is destined to become a performer.

The Performer attacks the prevailing culture of the Audience in a non lethal way and profits from them. This is the child who ran away from home, to join the Circus.

By becoming a Performer the Elitist could attract a mate. This is the conclusion.
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The Religious Angle:

The initial question here was: Is the naturally occuring elitist evil?, and it transpires that there is a very clear religious factor going on.

In the NewZealand Mosque attacks we have a group of Muslims praying. They have been there before and do this regularly and so there is a significant hive mind. The Hive Mind of the Crowd is considered to be what forms God - in the subjective sense (of God being manmade). The white supremacist is a lone gunman and if we assume that Evil is the opposite of Good then it may exist in isolation. He is the force of evil and he directly kills the hive developing the force of good. It is a direct battle of Evil versus Good and in that case Evil won.

If we now consider the Las Vegas shooting, which was the Mandalay Bay Hotel, we have a single gunman. Once again with modified guns. Shooting the crowd at the Harvest Music Festival (which was Country Music). We see again that the audience was a considerable hive mind being synchronised by the music. The guy (a 64 year old who was rich) was isolated having sent away his girlfriend, had planned to kill the crowd opposite. This was not classified as terrorism as no motive was determined by the police. He killed himself afterwards. Again the isolation appears to be a feature of Evil while the crowd appears to be a feature of Good. Evil versus Good was the motive.

The function of Evil is to kill (primarily as a predator for food). It's clear that isolation being the opposite of the crowd is also a feature of Evil.

So... isolated individuals can exhibit a truely evil force - or rather become isolated because of evil forces. We generally have a battle between Good and Evil and in many cases Evil wins. This is not recognised because the true nature of Evil is not really understood and it's symptoms and functioning have not yet been fully discovered. A witches coven would be considered to be Good for example as it would be a hive mind.

The value of the gun lies in it's ability to distance the gunman from the target. He is out of range of their hive mind. When he shoots them he is directly shooting God. Strength in numbers merely creates a bigger target, while the lone individual is too small to detect.

It seems clear that the naturally occuring elitist is a product of evil forces. There is no scope for an elitist culture because it would destroy the isolation that evil depends upon. The even distribution of people simply avoids a hive mind thus no Good is present, creating compatibility with Evil.

The result is tricky, and what to do about it is unclear.
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Positive Aspects:

If we consider Fabian Wosar a computer virus cracker who focuses on Ransomware (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/hated_and_hunted_the_computer_virus_malware_ransomware_cracker) what we see is the reverse of the above aspects.

Fabian "lives a reclusive existence" so he works in isolation, and this is the principle of Evil. Meanwhile the criminals who produce the Ransomware "are run like mafia organisations with specific structures and divisions of labour" clearly working together as a hive mind, and this is the principle of Good. But in this case the Good of the hive is being used for an Evil purpose, while the Evil of the isolated individual is being used for a Good purpose. The roles are reversed. Because no death occurs - Fabian doesn't shoot the criminals - no true evil occurs. He is then a benefit to the community yet still has this evil lifestyle by necessity.

If the same argument was made by the white supremacist in NewZealand, it becomes clear that as the function of evil is to kill, he is quickly identified as the one acting with evil forces.

In the religious context we might consider human sacrifice. In that case the hive mind of the group seems to have captured the lone wolf and in sacrificing him it's a direct attack of Good against Evil. The film The Wicker Man is a classic example. The Policeman was isolated, became evil (King for a day), and was sacrificed by the hive mind of the group. Less evil - more fruit?

In the case of groups: The witches coven might still be using their hive mind to act in an evil way but it would not be true evil. A collection of evil individuals could not work together as a group without becoming a hive mind acting for good. They could synchronise to the same day or follow a chronological sequence of events, but would each have to act independantly from each other to produce an evil result. So from my point of view you can't really have a Satanic group unless they are widely dispersed.
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Is the shooter a Shaman?

This would make a lot of sense. The Shaman was associated with the Hunter Gatherer tribes. His role was to help the tribe to kill more animals for food. He would use spiritual means to attract more animals to the area. As the function of evil is to kill the Shaman would fall into the evil category. Using the Good of the hive mind of the group would not work if the purpose is to kill. So the Shaman is functional within the Hunter Gatherer context, but even then becomes apparent by his or her failure to fit in with the tribe, and would be even more displaced in the modern prevailing culture. The shooters often use customised guns and are clearly acting as hunters - maximising the kill. They are typically acting against colonizers or people who are seen to be making the culture worse.

This argument provides us with two solutions to the problem. On the one hand a greater interest in shamanism may encourage these people into this area of study where they can then spend their time in the spirit world rather than plotting against the population. Where they would learn to help the community in some way. On the other hand the Shamans skill in attracting animals into the region to improve the hunt could be used instead to attract females into the area in the same way, using the same techniques. He would exert his influence in the spirit world to control and manipulate the female population.

Some study is required to see if this matches up with the background of Elliot Rodger.
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Elliot:

My first experience with WoW was like stepping into another world of excitement and adventure. It was a video game world, but they made it so realistic that it was like living another life, a more exciting life.

I must be destined to change the world, to shape it into an image that suits me!

Being one who always loved fantasy and magic, and who always wished that such things were real, I was swept up in a temporary wave of enthusiasm over this book. The prospect that I could change my future just by visualizing in my mind the life I wanted filled me with a surge of hope that my life could turn out happy.

I briefly fantasized about being a god as I looked down upon them all. I imagined having the power to destroy everything below with destructive, supernatural powers.

I will be a god, and they will all be animals that I can slaughter. They are animals... They behave like animals, and I will slaughter them like the animals they are.

I am not part of the human race. Humanity has rejected me.

I am more than human. I am superior to them all.

In the midst of my suffering, I have been able to see the world much clearer than others. I have vision that other people lack.

This is Shamanism.


Solution:
If we consider the naturally elite female, we see that she is quickly poached by the crowd of the prevailing culture. She gets chewed up and spat out, to become homeless and destitute - typically on drugs (the shamanic aspect I guess). In return I think the answer is to do the same. The elite male must poach the female from the crowd.

The Good forces are the crowd because they form the hive mind of God. The single guy in the crowd is looking for a girlfriend and the God of the gestalt knows this and manipulates the crowd to bring boy and girl together. The Good thus looks after it's own, and it's power is the manipulation of the number of people in the crowd. As a hive mind this God is achieving a degree of objectivity.

The Evil forces are with the individual - the opposite of the crowd. Evil doesn't have a crowd of people so can't look after it's own. It's power must be equal to the Good but this is hidden and concealed - where is the dark power? This must rest with the subconscious mind and must be based either on spirits or demons.

The suggestion is that the naturally occuring elitist is a Shaman and has, or can develop power within the spirit world. The Shaman is evil because of the need to kill animals for food - he leads the hunt. In poaching the female from the crowd (or rather from a distributed population - less hive mind) the Shaman must summon spirits or demons to possess the female and infect her with them. The Shaman controls the demon, the demon controls the female. Precedent has been set by the stage Hypnotist, who offers suggestions to the audience, selecting one who responds best. This individual is brought to the stage to become the hypnotic subject and is then hypnotised and made to do all manner of things to demonstrate the power of the hypnotist to control him against his will. This would be similar but would use slightly different methods. In cultures where Voodoo is common the population practice dancing the animal at the ceremonies. This is where they hope to be possessed by the spirit of an animal and so this concept of being possessed is expected and is not unreasonable.

The limiting factor rests on the skill of the Shaman. The practical approach is a broader influence to bring in more responsive females. So some magical influence is required and some true development as a Shaman is required. The Evil forces must take from the Good and withstand the rejection of that power.


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The Use of Sage
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This is the first solution to emerge from the study of Shamanism, but it's a complex theory based on circumstantial evidence and a house of cards.

God draws a line. The people above the line, the 'A's, get paid, while the people below the line, the 'B's do not get paid - despite doing all the same things. The 'A's get girl friends, they get married, they have kids, they live happy lives. The 'B's do not get any of this - they stagnate and they die.

Why?

The poor have always believed that they are poor because the rich are rich. They have always felt that the rich take from the poor thus making them poor. In economic terms this cannot be so. The poor have always been poor - they have no money to take. Thus the rich can only take from other rich people who have the money to give. Yet the feeling persists. The answer is, that it's not money that is being taken but some kind of psychic energy.

The answer to the above question is the scarcity mentality. God is not infinite but a hive mind. His resources are limited. As a product of the people above the line he is already taking from them to exist, therefore how does he pay them - where does he get the payment from. The reality here is worse. God is taking from the 'B's below the line and is paying what he takes to the 'A's above the line. In short he takes Happiness from person 'B's brain and feeds it into person 'A's brain. Person 'A' says; "I am so happy, thanks God", person 'B' says; "I am so unhappy, fuck you God".

The Israelite slaves of Egypt through the development of the neo-cortex of their brains, due to the religious use of the Tabret (a tambourine based on the Deff Drum) and the mathematics of laying out mud bricks, developed their brains enough to produce a hive mind God - which by definition is a Vampire God. This God then proceeds to turn the congregation into a race of vampires, extracting psychic energy from the surrounding population (anyone not jewish I guess), feeding it into the brains of his fledgling vampire race. (Did the Nazis know?) The jewish slaves became more powerful and used this power to escape from their slavery.

In the case of the people above the line: They are in a crowd so they are producing a hive mind. The view is that this is achieving a kind of critical mass the result of which is that the neo-cortex of their brains become Receptive. In the case of the people below the line: They are not in a crowd and are incompatible with the crowd so they are not producing a hive mind. They are not achieving a critical mass, they are not generating a God. The neo-cortex of their brains is in a Transmissive state. God then leeches psychic energy from the transmitters and feeds it to the receivers. The 'B's become food for the 'A's, and God is the chef.

One of the things that God does is to create Biological Malfunctions. Three score years and ten was the reduction of the lifespan for example. I feel certain that God created Hayfever - for which he owes me 30 summers. He probably creates poor eyesight. The thinking is that he creates the menopause in women and their solution to this is to take Sage as a supplement. This eliminates the biological malfunction and removes the symptoms after about a year. The question is, how does it work.

I was studying Sage because it's used by the Shaman to smudge the area before journeying (burning the herb before beating the drum). It has remarkable medicinal benefits but when you study it what you find is Thujone, a hallucinogenic neurotoxin. How could a substance containing a neurotoxin be good for you? If God produces biological malfunctions he must connect to the persons brain via the neo-cortex. Perhaps the Thujone neurotoxin severs this connection - or more simply sours the milk. God would stop leeching from that person. It would be rather like Garlic, it would be like a chemical tinfoil hat, the neurotoxin would affect the neo-cortex. The person would stop suffering from the biological malfunction and their health would improve. In being disconnected from God they would be standing on the line (neither above it nor below it). They would nolonger be a victim of vampirism. It would make them immune.

So Sage supplements are highly recommended for solving the kinds of problems experienced by Elliot Rodger - a person who was below the line (a 'B'). I don't know if it would work but if the problem is caused by God then it might. This is why many homeless people are on drugs. Their connection to God is killing them and the drugs tend to sever the connection.

From the Shamanic point of view Clary Sage is available as an aroma therapy oil. It has a higher concentration of Thujone and can be dispersed using an ultrasonic diffuser. This has a number of advantages. Firstly the Sage is not burned, secondly as it's not a smoke it does not set off the smoke detectors, thirdly dispersion can continue for five hours or so, and finally it should be more powerful than smudging with the regular Sage. Again the use of this is recommended.


Reality Check:
Vampirism does indeed occur in practice, in the world.

Shamanism predated the God of the Jews and the development of the neo-cortex and yet the Sage was still used. It is said that continued use improves the Shamans visions. The Sage was used as a protection and it has been shown to reduce airborne bacteria. The implication is that the Thujone probably affects all parts of the brain but presumably some other kind of vampire must have existed that could feed off other areas of the brain? Perhaps it has an airborne effect, and therefore something comes at us invisibly through the air but is repelled by the Sage - if not in the air then by the accumulation of Thujone in the brain - at other times.

The argument creates a very troublesome view of the world. We can see from the Gods of the Egyptians that it is possible to have religion and it is possible to worship Gods - without them being vampires.

The drugs taken by homeless people seem to make their lives worse not better, hopefully Sage would produce a more positive outcome?

God does produce positive effects. He handles husbandry by selecting couples whose breeding would enhance the genetic result - without which stagnation would occur, but there is the risk that God is simply producing better vampires. Arranged marriages would provide the system and the culture with a functional solution, but the result, given that the parents who make such arrangements are not Gods, could easily produce de-evolution or stagnation. God at least is handling natural selection.

In the case of Predator and Prey it is normally the case that the predators are few in number while the prey are large in number. In the above case the 'B' people below the line are the prey but they are few in number. Are they sufficient to feed the 'A's. We eat meat but is the population of farmed animals greater in size than the human population? We eat small parts of the animals so the view is that one animal can feed many humans. In the case of vampirism the view is that the 'A's can be sustained in a more positive state than the 'B's and it would only take a small amount of extracted psychic energy to achieve this. If however you were to legalise drugs you might cut off their food supply - their God would be against this. Fortunately Sage cannot be made illegal as it exists in too many forms to block.

So Jews are Vampires? Seems slightly anti-Semitic. This is a mute point as all crowds now generate hive minds despite their religion - with the exception of the incompatibles. Distance is currently the only defence.

The booming noise we want to hear should be coming from the drum - not the guns or the bombs and so the view is to popularise shamanism. It is clear however that God is undermining Shamanism and religions have always attacked these people presumably because they do have some immunity. The Shaman is not a food source! Again if all the people below the line became Shamans, their use of Sage would cut off the vampires food supply and this won't be allowed. As a result they become shooters, suicide bombers, muslim terrorsists, white supremacists, and nazis - but are still food for the vampires while they are doing that. If they kill the flock - then less food is needed as there are less mouths to feed, God becomes less but remains functional and everything continues as before.

Sage will improve your health even if all of the above is wrong.