Elliot Rodger: Conclusion

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Elliot Rodger: Conclusion

ShaunS
After studying this topic for some time I have reached a conclusion.

On the left we have the Good Guys. On the right we have the Good Girls. And in the middle we have Fuck Heads.

The Good Girls do what they are supposed to do and look for the Good Guys but in glancing in their direction they see the Fuck Heads and get captured by them. They typically have six kids and get beaten up every night and it ends in divorce etc.

The Good Guys glance in the direction of the Good Girls but only see the female Fuck Heads in the middle and typically avoid or swear at them and remain in isolation.

The Government supports the Fuck Heads in the middle because the stupid population are very useful and generate a huge income, as well as democracy etc.

The State pretends that there is a society that will work for the Good Guys, but this is a lie. You can see that what is needed is a social culture suspended above the heads of the Fuck Heads in the middle, where the Good Guys and the Goods Girls can meet each other. And you can see that this would be elitist. Knowing that this is what is needed means that you can consider various methods and ask does this method avoid the Fuck Heads in the middle.

Arranged marriages typically arranged by the parents will bypass the Fuck Heads in the middle.
Expensive elitist dating agencies where both partners have to have lots of money will tend to work.
Class distinction was a way of avoiding the lower classes and would have worked.

Elliot Rodger was murdering people that he thought were the Fuck Heads. The social structure that he needed and that was implied to exist by the state was not present to any tangible degree. There was no group to help him, and therein lies the problem.

So... some people seem to be elitist by nature and this makes them behave much better than the common people. These are upper class people. Natural Princes and Princesses. Some social structure is needed to bring this Royalty together, but the Government supports scum instead. The problem here is that money is no indicator of status.
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Re: Elliot Rodger: Conclusion

ShaunS
So...

1. Naturally occuring elitism.

2. They don't know that they have this.

3. None of the regular social structures work for them.

4. After a time they become rather dangerous.

So these people think they are the same as everybody else. They then find that while the usual social order works for everybody else, it doesn't work for them. They then jump to the conclusion that it's everybody elses fault. Eventually they pound on the people around them.


ISIS
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Isis new that these people were out there. They new that with a little provocation and a little training they could be encouraged to murder the people around them where they lived. So they new that this tendency was naturally occuring and would occur in all the countries of the world. This was not just luck or percentages. Ready made 5th columnists that could be sparked to their cause.

Now how did they know this? It seems unlikely that the information came from the muslim religion as they were twisting that to their cause. It must have been some information that came from arabic culture itself. These people in the arabic world were being handled in some way? The arabs got on well with the Nazis so elitism was not frowned upon. We must assume that the information came from Saudi Arabia and that the arabs have a solution to this?

This means that arabic culture should be studied to find the answer.

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ShaunS
The Modern Jazz musician is a naturally occuring elitist. Using an instrument instead of a gun. Whether Mozart was an elitist is unclear. Modern HipHop might be viewed in a similar light.

In films Batman would be an elitist as would most of his villains. Daath Vader would be an elitist as would Luke Skywalker. Buffy The Vampire Slayer was a naturally occuring elitist trained to use weapons to kill an unseen enemy lurking in the background. An enemy that was a threat to the blood of the people. A Nazi element perhaps?

It seems that within the prevailing culture there are strands of an elitist subculture. The naturally occuring elitist needs to immerse himself within this elitist subculture for peace of mind. Some effort is required to identify these elitist strands so they can be brought together to provide an alternative to the prevailing culture. Otherwise the tendency is to try to destroy the prevailing culture.

*What happens in practice is that they tend to look for elitist organisations to belong to, such as Neo Nazis, White Supremacists, Muslim Terrorists, where they can then associate with like minded people.

What is needed is an elitist strand to handle socialising. In the case of prostitutes it is clear that this is the exact opposite of elitist. If we ask what is the opposite of the prostitute, the answer is the virgin and it is these virgins that are the reward for the muslim suicide bombers - presumably elitists.

Arabic culture may have elitist strands that are more useful?
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Re: Elliot Rodger: Conclusion

ShaunS
However... there is an intriguing loophole.

The natural elitist has no problem fitting into the working environment. They can get jobs. They can work and earn money. This is because the working environment is a Dictatorship, and as you'll realise Dictatorships are Elitist. The working environment has an elitist culture.

Both common and elitist people can be found in the working environment.

The implication is that the working environment can provide an opportunity for elite males and females to socialise. The secretary marries her boss. Parked cars away from the CCTV allow all sorts of things to happen. Currently these people risk getting the sack but the view is that it's a fledgling environment that needs to be developed further to allow social involvment within the working world. This I think is the correct answer.

Elliot Rodger was not employed. He stayed within the educational domains and those are where the prevailing culture is the strongest. So the educational world appears to have produced the prevailing culture. Public (private) schools generate Politicians that run our world so badly.

Any culture that could replace the existing culture and work for these elitist types, would have to be a working culture.
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ShaunS
The prevailing culture is caused by large crowds of people. I should say by regular crowds of people. It's not entirely clear how this happens but it's what they bring to the group in terms of fashions and attitudes.

It starts with the school playground. Then you have Cities and large shopping areas, night clubs, and audiences. School classes are audiences as are religious congregations. In the Cities we have the homeless, and these are elitists - isolated even within the crowd. Recently on TV (60 Days Homeless?) we had the example of a lady who was married at an early age, who had three children, but it didn't work out and so she was homeless on the streets of Manchester. This is an example of an elite female.

These crowds of people don't work for the naturally elite individual. What is needed is a uniform distribution of people. In a working environment the people are kept at their desks or workstations and are evenly distributed throughout the building. Tents on a camp site for example. Boats on a river for example. Socialisation occurs while traveling to and from the required point in the grid, and the people are separated by some moderate degree of physical barrier.

Audiences are a problem, if you can't have them then you can't have performances. However television is a distributed form of entertainment spread amongst people who are broadly distributed in the region, and as such is a Kosher part of the culture.

The naturally elite have a tendency to attack crowds as the obvious cause of their problems. Tower blocks (instead of discrete houses) are an example of crowds, hence the World Trade Centre attacks. So typically audiences are attacked.

The prevailing culture is bad and I say that in an absolute sense. The protesters in France for example.

Religions are not the answer because the congregations are just another audience.
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ShaunS
Consider the dynamic between the Performer and the Audience. The Performer has adopted an elitist culture while the Audience has the prevailing culture. The Performer has developed some form of superiority and uses this to entertain the Audience. He or she does something that they (the Audience) cannot easily do themselves. So this is a meeting point of two separate and different cultures. The culture of the elitist meets the prevailing culture.

If we look back to Elliot Rodger we have his videos and his manifesto. He was appealing to an Audience. If we look forwards to the recent NewZeland Mosque attacks we find the the white supremacist was using a head mounted camera to live stream his 'Performance' to the internet where presumably he had an Audience. The suggestion is that this interpretation is correct. The natural elitist is destined to become a performer.

The Performer attacks the prevailing culture of the Audience in a non lethal way and profits from them. This is the child who ran away from home, to join the Circus.

By becoming a Performer the Elitist could attract a mate. This is the conclusion.