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fschmidt
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I am looking for feedback about this forum.

What do you think of the structure of this forum, having a main forum at the top and then the 2 sub-forums?

What do you think about the image at the top of this forum; positive, neutral, or negative?

What do you think of the description which currently reads "A Reactionary Free Speech Forum"?

What do you think of having a CoAlpha motto?  Some ideas:

1.  Join the Anti-Slut Counter Revolution
2.  Reject slut culture. Reject modern culture.
3.  Reject Slut Culture
or something else

Any other feedback?
Following the Old Testament, not evil modern culture
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Humanity
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-My preference for the forums is not to have the CoAlpha Brotherhood buried. It's not an issue, just my personal preference.

-I think the image is going to seem neutral to most non-initiated viewers. While to us it evokes something ancient and leaning towards brotherhood, I don't think outsiders are going to think much of it, save for perhaps thinking it a bit odd.

-I think calling it a Reactionary Free Speech Forum is good. It gives us an up-front way to express a key part of our values.

-I like the idea of a motto, but I hope we can develop something more striking over time. It should still be something simple, expressing what we stand for (like "Be prepared" or "Semper Fidelis") but also striking. In addition, we could just have a short motto, but add in something at the top of the main forum fleshing things out a bit more. A lot of visitors are lazy so having something posted where they land will help some I think. For example:

"Western culture is terminal. Modern culture cannot be saved. If you wish to have hope for a future, you must abandon it. It does not matter if you are at war with it. It is at war with you. The only hope is to build a culture in a place where the modern world cannot reach. This is our undying desire."

And posting it at the top of the main forum so that every visitor will see it and get an instant glimpse into what we are about.
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Spenta
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I am in agreement with Humanity more or less.
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purpleduck
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fschmidt wrote
What do you think about the image at the top of this forum; positive, neutral, or negative?
It's ok. Craftmanship and musicianship. Unmodern. Cool to me.

fschmidt wrote
What do you think of the description which currently reads "A Reactionary Free Speech Forum"?
It's perfect.

fschmidt wrote
What do you think of having a CoAlpha motto?  Some ideas:

1.  Join the Anti-Slut Counter Revolution
2.  Reject slut culture. Reject modern culture.
3.  Reject Slut Culture
or something else

Any other feedback?
What's wrong with sluts who sleep with decent men? Not all sluts pick the same men, that's a fact. Leave the bullshit that "all women pick the same men" out of the door, it is simply not true. What's true is that there's a trend among the ugly and stupid to say that Brad Pitt is ugly and this is proof that folly reigns and noone can claim to be "alpha" anymore. Women do not all agree on who's hot and who's not. As long as they sleep with whoever *I*, and general presence of taste, think is hot and civil and an example of a great specimen, they are doing the world a service. But if they sleep with whoever good sense tells he's a stupid fuck and a douchebag, they're doing the world a disservice. Women should serve the good men and starve the bad ones, but is a slut one who by definition does otherwise? I don't think. It's up to the value and taste of the slut in question.

A definition on urban dictionary...:

Slut:
Someone who provides a very needed service for the community and sleeps with everyone, even the guy that has no shot at getting laid and everyone knows it. She will give him a sympathy fuck either because someone asked her to or she just has to fuck everyone she knows. These are great people, and without them sex crimes would definitly increase. Thank you slut, where ever you are.


I have no problem with sluts who make wise choices and please men of intelligence and skill and handsomeness. They are more in touch with their feminine nature and nature in general. The problem is women being brainwashed, lacking taste and sense and doing the worst partner choices possible. And even worse are FRIGID women, or lesbians, who are on the rise. THOSE are the women I reject....not sluts who'd gladly sleep with me!!!

end topic of sluts.

"Rejecting modern culture" sounds like the best motto in there to me.

I particularly love the sweeping "modern culture" object of rejection. Not being sarcastic. It is the whole of modern culture that sucks, ANYWHERE in the world, and as such it should be rejected. Also since everything now is mainstream basically, and there seems to be simply a single mainstream "modern culture" with no significant alternatives. There's no alternative culture to speak of. There used to be in the 90s maybe (think about the music scene, for example), and they died in the '00s. For sure, mainstream culture has gotten way out of control.  
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Cornfed
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What's wrong with sluts who sleep with decent men? Not all sluts pick the same men, that's a fact.
Sluts tend to go for the same kinds of men because they are trying to increase their slut status among other sluts. For various reasons, in the West this tends to mean sluts will fuck scumbags. Aside from essentially training men to be scumbags and perpetuating their genes, the existence of sluts destroys cooperation among men, as men are encouraged to compete for the attentions of passing sluts. It also decreases cooperation among the sluts themselves as they compete for the highest status men. Once there is a critical mass of sluts in the population, the remaining females have no choice but to become sluts since females derive status from their perceived sexual value. Men in slut societies are encouraged to try to fuck as many sluts as possible rather than forming lasting relationships. Hence sluts are highly destructive to the whole of society.

Slut:
Someone who provides a very needed service for the community and sleeps with everyone, even the guy that has no shot at getting laid and everyone knows it. She will give him a sympathy fuck either because someone asked her to or she just has to fuck everyone she knows. These are great people, and without them sex crimes would definitly increase. Thank you slut, where ever you are.
Since essentially all Western females are sluts, they attempt to arbitrarily redefine to term to refer only to sluts who fuck low-status (e.g. decent) men. It is like how the Catholic Church redefined usury after they got into the usury business themselves. Such a definition merely reinforces the lousiness of sluts.
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purpleduck
Cornfed wrote
Since essentially all Western females are sluts
Sorry, disagree with this one. I see many women in Europe who don't care about "increasing slut status". That is common among a big part of young ones, and not even all of them, at least in Europe. Please don't confuse the USA with the west. Europe is fortunately a bit different. And a bit better in many ways.
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caamib
Why do you keep deleting your posts?
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K C Sunbeam
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People might think that the picture of five men playing instruments has a subliminal connotation.  Three of the men have a long instrument in their mouth;  you want to make sure that everybody is clear that you're promoting straight men's rights, not something else.

Your structure looks fine;  "Reactionary Free Speech Forum" is fine.

As far as your motto goes,  A BIG NO to mentioning the S word for women.  It will turn off women who will want to come on board with your ideas; it will turn off men who are very chivalrous to women, and it will encourage women who are at least generous to some men with their bodies to be frigid.

Have something like "A return to sanity", "Resurrecting old fashioned sensible values",   "A lighthouse in the midst of a mad culture"    "Men, awake!"   etc.
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fschmidt
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K C Sunbeam wrote
As far as your motto goes,  A BIG NO to mentioning the S word for women.  It will turn off women who will want to come on board with your ideas; it will turn off men who are very chivalrous to women, and it will encourage women who are at least generous to some men with their bodies to be frigid.
Slut-shaming is essential for any civilized culture.  People who reject slut-shaming wouldn't have any interest in CoAlpha anyway.  One site that may CoAlpha may appeal to is SlutHate.com and I hope my motto appeals to them.
Following the Old Testament, not evil modern culture
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caamib
Isn't SlutHate just a new name for PUAHate forum? Aka a cesspool of frustrated low IQ morons?
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Cornfed
caamib wrote
Isn't SlutHate just a new name for PUAHate forum? Aka a cesspool of frustrated low IQ morons?
Yes, I don't think we are going to get a high percentage of useful recruits from there. I suppose the thinking is that since Elliot Rodger posted on there, it might be possible to attract people like him before they run amok.
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fschmidt
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Cornfed wrote
caamib wrote
Isn't SlutHate just a new name for PUAHate forum? Aka a cesspool of frustrated low IQ morons?
Yes, I don't think we are going to get a high percentage of useful recruits from there. I suppose the thinking is that since Elliot Rodger posted on there, it might be possible to attract people like him before they run amok.
Yes, that's right.  Also, SlutHate seems slightly better than PUAHate.  And it has such high volume that even a small percentage would be useful.  SlutHate is the highest volume site where I can post the CoAlpha message without being banned.
Following the Old Testament, not evil modern culture
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K C Sunbeam
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What you're saying may be true.   But the name you are choosing sounds like what a teenager would say; it's very non-intellectual.
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Drealm
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K C Sunbeam wrote
As far as your motto goes,  A BIG NO to mentioning the S word for women.  It will turn off women who will want to come on board with your ideas; it will turn off men who are very chivalrous to women, and it will encourage women who are at least generous to some men with their bodies to be frigid.

Have something like "A return to sanity", "Resurrecting old fashioned sensible values",   "A lighthouse in the midst of a mad culture"    "Men, awake!"   etc.
I think it depends on where the motto will be used. Will it be used on our forum header? Or as a link in signatures on external forums? Is the goal of the motto to get people to visit here? Or is it for people already here?

The problem I see with "A return to sanity", "Resurrecting old fashioned sensible values", "A lighthouse in the midst of a mad culture", "Men, awake!" is that this has no appeal lazy angry people like you'll find on sluthate. These people have no interest in doing anything constructive. It's a younger crowd and they're in a phase of their life where they just want to be angry. The fastest way to scare them off is with practical advice. Instilling a traditionalist mentality will only come after they visit our site and talk to us for a while.

The only way I see to draw in sluthate people is with something even more angry and outrageous than what they're use to.
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K C Sunbeam
Drealm,

You have an excellent point.  However, why don't you guys appeal to older, more mature people that actually have power to do something?

You need males to be over 18 to vote against people like Hillary Clinton, and vote for conservative candidates.
 
Then you want older men who might be school principals and superintendents, who can reverse the crazy idea of   -   schools and go back to separate boy's and     's schools.  You need older men who might be judges and politicians to change the laws.      Upon seeing      this and      that, I'm sure they wouldn't even bother reading the site.
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Cornfed
K C Sunbeam wrote
You need males to be over 18 to vote against people like Hillary Clinton, and vote for conservative candidates.
 
Then you want older men who might be school principals and superintendents, who can reverse the crazy idea of   -   schools and go back to separate boy's and     's schools.  You need older men who might be judges and politicians to change the laws.      Upon seeing      this and      that, I'm sure they wouldn't even bother reading the site.
Voting is worthless and people in positions like that are either powerless or corrupt. Political activism through the system is a dead end. The powers that be are not stupid. They know the effects of their policies are harmful to the rest of us, but they profit from them and can make sure their evil minions tow the line.
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K C Sunbeam
Cornfed,

I would almost agree with you.  But you certainly can't believe that voting for Hillary Clinton is no different than voting for Ron Paul.  Although all politics is corrupt, we can warn enough people to vote against people like Hillary Clinton, and at least prevent things from getting worse (for now).

Yes, our government is terrible. More specifically, the ZOG (Zionist Occupied Government).

I still say to appeal to older, smarter men with money who can effect change. Specificially, they can be persuaded to stop spending their money on women-owned businesses, and only do business with male-owned companies.

Gentlemen:  I'm having problems with my computer; I have residue from a content filter that is deleting words.  I'll try to get it removed soon.   Have a nice day/evening.
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Cornfed
K C Sunbeam wrote
 But you certainly can't believe that voting for Hillary Clinton is no different than voting for Ron Paul.  Although all politics is corrupt, we can warn enough people to vote against people like Hillary Clinton, and at least prevent things from getting worse (for now).
Unless you are interested in some local pork barrel initiative, voting makes absolutely no difference. If Ron Paul intended to effect any real change, he either wouldn't be elected, would be brought down by some scandal or would be assassinated. Just stop sanctioning this farce by voting.

Yes, our government is terrible. More specifically, the ZOG (Zionist Occupied Government).
ZOG = Zionist Occupational Government. Calling the regime occupied implies that it is basically lawful but for a few infiltrators. In fact Western regimes are occupational - simply criminal syndicates acting for foreign powers whose members and supporters need to be brought to justice.

I still say to appeal to older, smarter men with money who can effect change. Specificially, they can be persuaded to stop spending their money on women-owned businesses, and only do business with male-owned companies.
While a general campaign to stop financially supporting female whoredom would be good, not patronizing their businesses would not be the complete solution since the regime can create money out of thin air to give to them. Furthermore, old, fat Volvo owners don't generally start revolutions or form free colonies or whatever else we are likely to want. Trying to appeal to them is a waste of time.
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Humanity
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Appealing to those inside the system - especially those entrenched within it (i.e. their paycheck depends on the system) - is almost always a losing move. A school superintendent is worthless. Their paycheck depends on helping keep young men brainwashed in government schools. We sometimes look for other alienated men, but they have some hope if they reject modern culture. If they are entrenched on the system and receive money and other benefits from it, it is pointless.

Voting is equally useless. As the old saying goes, if voting could change anything it would be illegal. Ron Paul would never be allowed into office and if somehow he could, he'd get the Kennedy treatment.

Trying to change or reform the system is useless. We seek to separate from it because it is hopeless to work within it.
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K C Sunbeam
Humanity,

There's no proof that this, that, and the other thing is useless or worthless. Besides that, you guys are alienating too many types of decent men.

It seems like there's a fantasy here where only a handful of successful independent businessmen want to form their own community outside of everybody else.  It's all defeatist.

David Duke got successfully elected into office and served his term, so there.

Life has always been more thorns than roses, and always will be, even within a co-Alpha brotherhood fantasy on a remote desert island.   I simply seek to increase the rose percentage among the thorns.
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