I think Happier Abroad has been infiltrated and co-opted.

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I think Happier Abroad has been infiltrated and co-opted.

Humanity
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Winston/Zboy1 have been on a mission to clamp down on free speech for a while now. In banning Cornfed and other "undesirables," they realized they took a big hit to the forum, losing good members. [I haven't posted there since the initial banning of Cornfed and others, for anyone keeping up with it.] Afterwards, they reversed the ban and now we're back to the same place. Winston posted a poll asking if Cornfed should be banned again. He's left it open-ended, saying that the poll would influence his decision but not determine it. Anyone with half-a-brain sees that that is simple cowardice and deception. He wants the ability to use the poll to his advantage if the results turn out to his favor, but also to claim the poll doesn't matter if he chooses to ban Cornfed again.

Now here is where I think there is something larger at work. I think Happier Abroad has been infiltrated and co-opted by feminists and similar cronies. There is a troll posting on HA now, a female posting under the name Danielle Nguyen. She frequently posts to stir up drama and just generally exhibits calssic trolling behavior. However, she is being coddled by Winston and Zboy1. And even a recent thread about single moms elicited some support.

What I suspect is that these two things are happening together by design. Winston and Zboy1 are working to crush free speech and dissenting opinions while simultaneously coddling and supporting a feminist. And one who is clearly a troll.

Winston made a comment recently in one thread about how he wants to attract more mainstream people to his forum. That's blatant insanity that even a fool like Winston can see. And I'm sure he does. But he and Zboy1 are working together to bring the forum down.

It really made sense when Winston went back to the U.S. and deciding never to leave again. He tried to get involved with a stripper in Vegas for crying out loud. I'm not going to try to chalk this up to some miniature conspiracy. What it seems to me right now is that Winston returned to the U.S., and since he never truly rejected modern culture, began to fall in love with it again. He does care that it rejected him and he never fully rejected it. So he himself is trying to become more mainstream and as a result he is trying to drag the forum down in that direction as well. I have no doubt that he will be successful and destroy his forum attempting to become part of mainstream modern culture.

Winston has turned his backs on the values that caused him to make a successful niche forum in the first place. It isn't just that trolls come in and cause trouble or that Winston gets fed up with some dissenting worldview. Trolls, some very experienced with co-opting are very good at "good cop, bad cop" tactics and such. And so it's very easy to read relatively public figures like Winston and probe for weaknesses. Then it isn't difficult to influence someone, especially if they are already in process of rejecting their former values.
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Cornfed
Humanity wrote
Winston made a comment recently in one thread about how he wants to attract more mainstream people to his forum. That's blatant insanity that even a fool like Winston can see. And I'm sure he does.
You are probably giving Winston a bit much credit there. He may actually be as stupid as he seems.
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Drealm
I would think as forum administrator Winston would understand that if he creates a private forum it will be unindexed like his NSFW section, so less traffic. On top of this if posters shift to the private forum there will be less activity in the main. zboy is perhaps the worst forum marketing person I've ever seen. His whole idea is to copy a bigger forum (rooschv) and then convince people to switch with over with 1/10th the base.  He's also foolish if he thinks he can attract PUA's away from rooschv with Winstons posts on subjects like aliens, supernatural, etc.
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Humanity
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All that and that they would desire to bring PUAs over in the first place. But perhaps I thought of HA too highly for too long. Only a shard of the forum was ever against feminism and modern culture. 90% is mainstream types, blue pill types, and mongers/PUAs. So perhaps it is not as much of a lost cause as I thought. The only thing it really had was free speech and even that was tenuous over the years. Anyway, I certainly hope the forum goes down in flames, and it would be hilarious. If he no longer wants the niche, someone else could always take it from him...
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Spenta
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To tell the truth, HA was never reactionary in any way except for a minority. All it was that it was based only on Winston's base desires, so it always attracted people like Winston the most. That is sleazeballs, mongers and all sorts of malcontents. So in a sense, it was been infiltrated long before anyone ever realized it was. Danielle Nguyen wasn't the only feminist on this forum, I think there was also a black american female feminist as well.

Winston isn't the brightest tool in the toolbox, even though he likes to think that he is.
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Humanity
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Good point. We fundamentally reject modern culture. Winston/HA does not, and often times accept modern culture and/or desire to be a part of it, even when they were rejected. They don't see it as fundamentally rotten. Winston is not very smart and is full of himself. He likes to boast, but it is clear he is full of shit. He reminds me of a spoiled little boy that throws constant temper tantrums and wants to force other to do/see things his way. It's disgusting.