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Great news! I landed a new job and am off to the UK in three weeks, never to return. I am screaming with joy to be out of this decrepit place. Yes, you are correct about my living situation which is in a town with around 10,000 loud, rude and ignorant Sicilians. So glad to be finally leaving. It will be wonderful to be in a civilized country for a change; a place where the roads are nice, the buildings don't all look dirty and drab, the government works efficiently, the busses and trains run on time, the food is diverse, the stores are open all day and best of all, where people don't stare at you and give you filthy looks and make ignorant, rude comments as you walk by them, just because you didn't grow up in their little shithole, inbred town. It'll also be nice to be able to check out attractive women instead of retching over Sicilian women with their huge butts, flabby stomachs, fat faces, tacky clothes and screechy, loud voices. Here are a few things I learned about Sicilians while living here: Generally, they think they're perfect!; their food's "the best," (it's not - they eat the same 1/2 dozen dishes day in and out and will NEVER try foreign foods) their culture's "the best" (it's not, unless you consider being backward and ignorant "great") and they actually believe that God smiles on them as a Sicilian mother smiles on her firstborn son. They think that by hanging pictures of Jesus, the Pope, the saints, the Pope and Mother Mary on the walls of their tacky houses that they'll curry favor with God, even though they lie, cheat, steal and badmouth at every twist and turn. These people think worshiping statues and pictures is their insurance policy against crap behavior. And of course, the Church loves that shit, because these fools keep it awash in cash. Lol! Check this out - I laughed like crazy when a Sicilian "friend" suggested I place a picture of Christ or the Holy Family over my bed for "protection." WTF? Like I want Mother Mary and Baby Jesus to be checking out my moves while I'm replacing the bread, pasta and panelle that's perpetually in a Sicilian girl's mouth with my big, fat cock? Not really. These people are warped beyond belief or comprehension. Let's talk about the stupid food superstitions in play here - they are hilarious! I was on the beach one day. I had a nice salami and some bread to eat. When my Sicilian "friend" realized that the salami had been open to the sun for a few hours, he tried to slap it out of my hand. His reason was that "salami goes bad if it's in the sun for more than an hour!" Then there's the one about eating asparagus - Oooohhhhh Nooooo!! NEVER eat it two days in a row!!! O Dio! Ignorant fucks. Then there's the cousin thing - a lot of them marry their cousins. I know of three FIRST cousin marriages between people of my age here (~40). And many marriages between second and third cousins. Man, the gene pool here is extremely limited, just like Pakistan and other Third World holes. I have never seen so many crossed eyes, pigeon toes, weird looking skulls and other physical deformities. But worst of all is the damage that centuries of inbreeding in these Sicilian towns has done to people's ability to think straight and act civilly. They're just generally fucking dumb and slow. Just thick as a brick. It is shocking. But ver soon, I will be rid of it all; the lying, the cheating, the laziness, the lack of pride in doing work well, the joy they express when someone fails, the sickening envy and most of all their shocking spitefulness. I will NEVER return here. And I will warn everyone who might be tempted to buy a vacation home here or retire here or visit here not to under ANY circumstance (unless they enjoy getting cheated, lied to or rudely treated). I guess 2,000 years ago when the Greeks populated Sicily it was a vibrant place. But that was long, long ago and doesn't mean shit now. Now it's a busted out, depressing capsule of corruption from top to bottom, populated largely by inbred, ignorant and immensely hypocritical people whose first move is to smile at you and act friendly even as most of them are sizing you up for some sort of fucking or to gain some kind of advantage over you. This is a place where men are never allowed to grow up, never allowed to develop apart from their overbearing mothers. Given that, it is no wonder that no one takes responsibility for anything here and that it's all a shambles. "Mommy treats me like I am the second coming of Baby Jesus! I can do no wrong! I am special!!" Lol! Man, I hope you get out of here soon! Just about anywhere else in Europe is more civilized and functional than this sick place. A final word: I hear Sicilians blabber all day about how it's the government and the mafia and Northern Italy that has impoverished their island. But the truth is that it's the culture here that impoverishes it. And culture is nothing more than that which people hold dear, that which they think is good, that which they find acceptable, that which they ENJOY. The Mafia, the corrupt government, the trash strewn about the countryside, the rutted roads, the crumbling infrastructure, the rudeness, the thoughtlessness that is shot through Sicily is ALL a perfect reflection of Sicilian's themselves, because if it wasn't, Sicilians would get to work and fix these shortcomings. But they never will. And also, if they did fix them then what would these people, who never shut the fuck up unless they have a pile of food stuffed in their yappers, have to endlessly yap about? Best of luck! Leave Sicily man, and leave it at almost ANY cost. Find a way. You'll feel like a king the moment you realize you're leaving for good!
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You made me shed a tear dude, I had a quick read but have to re-read again more carefully, as this all touches many nerves of mine. 

I am completely happy you are leaving, comgratulations man, God bless you.

I will read thorougly and add more shortly, meanwhile, I would like to know how you ended up in a small town and not in a bigger city, which would have been probably better in every way, more civilized (not really but still more). In your and my case, I think cities would overall be better than towns, certainly not ideal but towns come with a whole set of new problems. Overall I would think cities would be better for breathing, but there might be a couple of things that are better in towns rather than cities (talking of Sicily). 

Sicilian cities aren’t big, they certainly aren’t heaven though. I way prefer Catania to Palermo to begin, it is more of a city. Palermo is some weird large town where you get the worst of both worlds. I believe I could make my life in Catania almost pleasant. Almost. But in Palermo...no way. There isn’t a single thing right with the place here according to my taste. I have sene worse weather, small towns would be worse, it’s not as chaotic as big cities in India...there are some cafes that are barely bearable but nothing special...there is nothing I like in Palermo, where I grew up, except memories of my childhood — those can be nice but are subjective. I have been to Catania many times and lived there for a short time and I just don’t hate it as much. 

Towns and places like Ragusa can be charming for tourists, but that is it. You fell for that trap didn’t you? I can understand a foreigner find those places charming, those seen in the Montalbano series. But the people and their mentality is exactly like shown there...incredibly absurd. Good for theatre, not good for living among them...it’s a mental asylum!

In small towns you actually go back to the middle ages in many ways. The people are superstitious and religion and churches have a lot of control there. 

If you learned some italian, what about those phenomenal movies of Antonio Albanese parodizing an archetypical southern italian corrupt politician...or maybe they translated them like they did with Montalbano. 

Dude, their mentality is good theatre, but it is completely deprived of what western civilization calls correct logic and reason. No point in expecting anything like that from it. I’m no surprised anymore with them thinking or claiming they are the best and their way is good. Poor them, they’re so clueless and fucked as to believe that. I think we should be grateful we don’t. We have many, many options and freedoms they don’t have. At its core, sicilian mentality is nothing but Stockholm syndrome and servitude to mafia; there is no respect for civilization, the state, and so on. It’s fucked, it’s a far west. What’s left for us it to stay away and laugh about it because it makes for some hilarious theatre. Southern Italy is theatre, not a real serious country. The people are actual puppets, they don’t think with their minds at all, they’re puppets of the occult government here, they call it mafia. And again, in small towns it can be even more evident.

What you encountered there is nothing but mafia. Everyone here is a criminal, son of criminal or friend of a criminal. Corruption is total, almost nothing here is uncorrupt. These are the facts; the ‘southern question’ is a big problem for the whole of Italy, and basically the State has given up trying to solve it. I wish Europe would solve it, I think it could if it cared enough. Isn’t it ridiculous Sicily is supposed to be part of Europe? There is nothing of the civilization of northern European countries. 

It seems sicilians are similar to greeks, though. Only greeks speak english well...








On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 at 23:38, beentheredonethat [via CoAlpha Reactionary Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Great news! I landed a new job and am off to the UK in three weeks, never to return. I am screaming with joy to be out of this decrepit place. Yes, you are correct about my living situation which is in a town with around 10,000 loud, rude and ignorant Sicilians. So glad to be finally leaving. It will be wonderful to be in a civilized country for a change; a place where the roads are nice, the buildings don't all look dirty and drab, the government works efficiently, the busses and trains run on time, the food is diverse, the stores are open all day and best of all, where people don't stare at you and give you filthy looks and make ignorant, rude comments as you walk by them, just because you didn't grow up in their little shithole, inbred town. It'll also be nice to be able to check out attractive women instead of retching over Sicilian women with their huge butts, flabby stomachs, fat faces, tacky clothes and screechy, loud voices. Here are a few things I learned about Sicilians while living here: Generally, they think they're perfect!; their food's "the best," (it's not - they eat the same 1/2 dozen dishes day in and out and will NEVER try foreign foods) their culture's "the best" (it's not, unless you consider being backward and ignorant "great") and they actually believe that God smiles on them as a Sicilian mother smiles on her firstborn son. They think that by hanging pictures of Jesus, the Pope, the saints, the Pope and Mother Mary on the walls of their tacky houses that they'll curry favor with God, even though they lie, cheat, steal and badmouth at every twist and turn. These people think worshiping statues and pictures is their insurance policy against crap behavior. And of course, the Church loves that shit, because these fools keep it awash in cash. Lol! Check this out - I laughed like crazy when a Sicilian "friend" suggested I place a picture of Christ or the Holy Family over my bed for "protection." WTF? Like I want Mother Mary and Baby Jesus to be checking out my moves while I'm replacing the bread, pasta and panelle that's perpetually in a Sicilian girl's mouth with my big, fat cock? Not really. These people are warped beyond belief or comprehension. Let's talk about the stupid food superstitions in play here - they are hilarious! I was on the beach one day. I had a nice salami and some bread to eat. When my Sicilian "friend" realized that the salami had been open to the sun for a few hours, he tried to slap it out of my hand. His reason was that "salami goes bad if it's in the sun for more than an hour!" Then there's the one about eating asparagus - Oooohhhhh Nooooo!! NEVER eat it two days in a row!!! O Dio! Ignorant fucks. Then there's the cousin thing - a lot of them marry their cousins. I know of three FIRST cousin marriages between people of my age here (~40). And many marriages between second and third cousins. Man, the gene pool here is extremely limited, just like Pakistan and other Third World holes. I have never seen so many crossed eyes, pigeon toes, weird looking skulls and other physical deformities. But worst of all is the damage that centuries of inbreeding in these Sicilian towns has done to people's ability to think straight and act civilly. They're just generally fucking dumb and slow. Just thick as a brick. It is shocking. But ver soon, I will be rid of it all; the lying, the cheating, the laziness, the lack of pride in doing work well, the joy they express when someone fails, the sickening envy and most of all their shocking spitefulness. I will NEVER return here. And I will warn everyone who might be tempted to buy a vacation home here or retire here or visit here not to under ANY circumstance (unless they enjoy getting cheated, lied to or rudely treated). I guess 2,000 years ago when the Greeks populated Sicily it was a vibrant place. But that was long, long ago and doesn't mean shit now. Now it's a busted out, depressing capsule of corruption from top to bottom, populated largely by inbred, ignorant and immensely hypocritical people whose first move is to smile at you and act friendly even as most of them are sizing you up for some sort of fucking or to gain some kind of advantage over you. This is a place where men are never allowed to grow up, never allowed to develop apart from their overbearing mothers. Given that, it is no wonder that no one takes responsibility for anything here and that it's all a shambles. "Mommy treats me like I am the second coming of Baby Jesus! I can do no wrong! I am special!!" Lol! Man, I hope you get out of here soon! Just about anywhere else in Europe is more civilized and functional than this sick place. A final word: I hear Sicilians blabber all day about how it's the government and the mafia and Northern Italy that has impoverished their island. But the truth is that it's the culture here that impoverishes it. And culture is nothing more than that which people hold dear, that which they think is good, that which they find acceptable, that which they ENJOY. The Mafia, the corrupt government, the trash strewn about the countryside, the rutted roads, the crumbling infrastructure, the rudeness, the thoughtlessness that is shot through Sicily is ALL a perfect reflection of Sicilian's themselves, because if it wasn't, Sicilians would get to work and fix these shortcomings. But they never will. And also, if they did fix them then what would these people, who never shut the fuck up unless they have a pile of food stuffed in their yappers, have to endlessly yap about? Best of luck! Leave Sicily man, and leave it at almost ANY cost. Find a way. You'll feel like a king the moment you realize you're leaving for good!


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I chose a smaller town because I didn't want to live in a bigger city, except maybe Siracusa or Catania. I thought Palermo was a hot, stinking zoo. I couldn't afford a decent apartment in either place. So after traveling around I ended up buying a small townhouse for little money near the center of the island. Wish now I had somehow found a way to settle near Catania since it's actually cosmopolitan and the people there seem far more civilized than most other parts of Sicily. I think that's because they're more Greek there than Arab or African. I moved here because on a vacation here I fell in love with the beautiful scenery and the history. Funny, but my mother (1/2 Sicilian, 1/2 Neapolitan) warned me about Sicily. She said, "You won't like it there. The people are backwards and ignorant. They will think you're going there to steal their property or money. They will not accept you." I laughed at her when she said that but now I realize she was totally correct. These weirdos HATE foreigners. And it's funny that because I came from the UK they all thought I was rich! That's a whole different story, the phony wankers knocking on my door to bring me a crate of tomatoes or some broccoli (that they'd end up throwing in the bin anyway), then acting like they could enter my house at will because they did me a big favor. Disgusting. Then, when I laid the law down telling my stalkers not to just show up unannounced and knock on my door at all hours of the day and night, most of them got irate and then the dirty looks really ramped up. I had at least 1/2 dozen of these inbreds ask me to get jobs in the UK for them or their idiot sons or cousins. Nothing for nothing here. Nothing given simply out of the goodness of one's heart or in the name of friendship. Sickening. The funniest of these incidents was when one of them showed up at my door with his clearly inbred and fucked up son asking me if I knew anyone in the UK who would give him a job. Like I'm a fucking employment agency for retarded Sicilians. I laughed in that guys face - just couldn't help it. He wasn't amused. But I was! Here's something else that's really nuts about Sicily: After I broke up with a Norwegian girl I met here, whose parents had a vacation home (she despised Sicilians and the way they lecherously stared at her and gave her filthy looks -  and I wouldn't move to Norway with her) I started playing with Sicilian women. Thinking nothing of it, I invited several over for dinner after a few dates that seemed to go ok. One of them said she would come over if she could bring her brother with her. I thought, "What the hell is this?" Another did the same thing, but with her male cousin. The one I actually ended up in the sack with would sneak over late at night and would leave right after we partied. Then I found out why. It's because it's automatically assumed that if a woman enters your house without a man (even for five minutes) that automatically means that you fucked her, and then people in town will talk and shame her. Insane! Doesn't matter if the woman is 19 or 90. What ignorant, spiteful fuckwads these people are! On the one I was banging: Eventually, she broke the ice to her family that she was seeing me. Oh my God! They would not stop ringing my doorbell, barging in as if they owned the place. Especially her mom, a screeching, intrusive, loud ignorant cunt. She just wouldn't leave even when it was clear that me and the woman wanted some private time. I tried to talk to the woman about this problem. I was shocked when she basically said, "Family is EVERYTHING to me!" and refused to tell her relatives to back off. So I ended it, right then and there. More dirty looks! You can't win here. . . you cannot have a normal, private life. These creeps do not understand the concepts of privacy and space. Less than three weeks to go before I leave this shit hole forever! By the way, you are totally correct - these are the most corrupt people I have ever known. Corrupt to the bone, from top to bottom, which explains why Sicily is so broken down and corrupted. I feel bad for the few decent Sicilians I befriended here. They are desperately looking to get out of here, but just can't.
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I would be glad to continue this privately. Is that ok to you? You can give me a spare throwaway email or I can. Are you interested?


On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 at 13:08, beentheredonethat [via CoAlpha Reactionary Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I chose a smaller town because I didn't want to live in a bigger city, except maybe Siracusa or Catania. I thought Palermo was a hot, stinking zoo. I couldn't afford a decent apartment in either place. So after traveling around I ended up buying a small townhouse for little money near the center of the island. Wish now I had somehow found a way to settle near Catania since it's actually cosmopolitan and the people there seem far more civilized than most other parts of Sicily. I think that's because they're more Greek there than Arab or African. I moved here because on a vacation here I fell in love with the beautiful scenery and the history. Funny, but my mother (1/2 Sicilian, 1/2 Neapolitan) warned me about Sicily. She said, "You won't like it there. The people are backwards and ignorant. They will think you're going there to steal their property or money. They will not accept you." I laughed at her when she said that but now I realize she was totally correct. These weirdos HATE foreigners. And it's funny that because I came from the UK they all thought I was rich! That's a whole different story, the phony wankers knocking on my door to bring me a crate of tomatoes or some broccoli (that they'd end up throwing in the bin anyway), then acting like they could enter my house at will because they did me a big favor. Disgusting. Then, when I laid the law down telling my stalkers not to just show up unannounced and knock on my door at all hours of the day and night, most of them got irate and then the dirty looks really ramped up. I had at least 1/2 dozen of these inbreds ask me to get jobs in the UK for them or their idiot sons or cousins. Nothing for nothing here. Nothing given simply out of the goodness of one's heart or in the name of friendship. Sickening. The funniest of these incidents was when one of them showed up at my door with his clearly inbred and fucked up son asking me if I knew anyone in the UK who would give him a job. Like I'm a fucking employment agency for retarded Sicilians. I laughed in that guys face - just couldn't help it. He wasn't amused. But I was! Here's something else that's really nuts about Sicily: After I broke up with a Norwegian girl I met here, whose parents had a vacation home (she despised Sicilians and the way they lecherously stared at her and gave her filthy looks -  and I wouldn't move to Norway with her) I started playing with Sicilian women. Thinking nothing of it, I invited several over for dinner after a few dates that seemed to go ok. One of them said she would come over if she could bring her brother with her. I thought, "What the hell is this?" Another did the same thing, but with her male cousin. The one I actually ended up in the sack with would sneak over late at night and would leave right after we partied. Then I found out why. It's because it's automatically assumed that if a woman enters your house without a man (even for five minutes) that automatically means that you fucked her, and then people in town will talk and shame her. Insane! Doesn't matter if the woman is 19 or 90. What ignorant, spiteful fuckwads these people are! On the one I was banging: Eventually, she broke the ice to her family that she was seeing me. Oh my God! They would not stop ringing my doorbell, barging in as if they owned the place. Especially her mom, a screeching, intrusive, loud ignorant cunt. She just wouldn't leave even when it was clear that me and the woman wanted some private time. I tried to talk to the woman about this problem. I was shocked when she basically said, "Family is EVERYTHING to me!" and refused to tell her relatives to back off. So I ended it, right then and there. More dirty looks! You can't win here. . . you cannot have a normal, private life. These creeps do not understand the concepts of privacy and space. Less than three weeks to go before I leave this shit hole forever! By the way, you are totally correct - these are the most corrupt people I have ever known. Corrupt to the bone, from top to bottom, which explains why Sicily is so broken down and corrupted. I feel bad for the few decent Sicilians I befriended here. They are desperately looking to get out of here, but just can't.


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Yeah I know what you mean. I've come to despise Sicilians and Calabrians and by default all Southern Italians myself. They can't speak in a normal voice, they have to scream, they are bullies they have always bullied me i'm outside their circle I live in Toronto with a large southern Italian population and so I've come to realize that all Southern Italians are untrustworthy and all Mafia mentality. They are truly some of the most retarded people on the planet. I think they hate me because they are envious of my superior lineage. I hail from the peoples of the British Isles, Basque Country, France, China, and Polynesia. My mother's parents come from the central regions of Latium and Abruzzi in Italy with distant Spaniard and French Ancestry on the Latium side and distant French on the Abruzzi as well as some Northern Italian. Italians in general are arrogant and have huge egos as well as having inferiority complexes in thinking they are better than everyone else. Italy is a shitty, corrupt country with shitty, corrupt country. I have come to prefer my Father over my Mother's side despite the Italian norm and it's because my Mother's side has many with complexes and arrogance. I can't imagine what it would be like to be in a Sicilian family. I have come to dislike many people on my mother's Italian side with the exceptions being my grandma, grandpa, aunts, mom, brother, great-grandparents, grandmother's immediate family, grandfather's immediate family, and a few of my mom's second cousins. They have all been kind to me throughout my whole life and have excepted me for who I am, being different. The rest are scum. My dad says Italians are crazy having been married to one his whole life and married into her family. He agrees with my hypothesis. My dad says they have a crazy mentality. I whole agree with you. I have had bad experiences with Arabs with the exception of some Berbers from Morocco and Algeria. I hate Egyptians, Albanians, Greeks, Tunisians, Libyans, Israelis, Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis, Persians, and Saudis. All retarded. Every single one of them. I've had good relations with Chinese, Russians, Portuguese, and Brits. Sorry for going off on a tangent. Just wanted to put it out there that you aren't the only one dealing with this issue. There are many including me who have suffered under the hands of these ugly violent conniving back stabbing arrogant east Mediterranean snakes.
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You gotta calm the fuck down m8... Bloody hypocrite
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thanks for sharing
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