Why Are You A Cultural Dropout?

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Why Are You A Cultural Dropout?

Drealm
Cultural dropouts aren’t heroes. Only a coward would take pride in cutting off the link to his past and going extinct. Yet an entire nation of men have embraced dropping out and throwing away their legacy as a fashionable form of rebellion. The truth is these dropouts are scared of making a real rebellion. All of us men may have common beef with society but when the hour comes there will be razor sharp difference between the men who give up and slit their own wrists and the men who charge forward to slit society’s throat.

A sense of desperation is driving men to scatter in different directions. Some men run away to third world slums in search of paradise. Other men commit mental castration by joining the celibate cult of men who go their own way. Lastly some men stoop to becoming humiliating amusements in an effort to win the spoils of decrepit soiled whores. All of these paths epitomize a culture of dropping out. The CoAlpha Brotherhood has always stood as the alternative to these cultural dead ends.

While others may surrender, we symbolize the last breed of men who want to fight. We rose above the filth of modern culture. We rallied against decadent westernism. And we allied ourselves with the alternative traditional world view. But after years of experiencing increasingly hostile assaults against our firm voice of traditional reason an infectious hatred has slowly cooked inside of us.

Hatred is the purest strain of morality. And we now yell with pride that our inner hate has left us itching to lynch every liberal lowlife we see. Every day our feelings grow more violent, more sadistic and more impatient towards a common liberal enemy. There comes a tipping point where you decide once and for all that the society who preys on you no longer deserves humane treatment. We yearn for the hour when men with nothing to lose finally start massacring progressive traitors in broad day light with a more radical wave of justice than we’ve ever dreamed of. The question is when this hour comes do you want to commit cultural suicide? Of are you brave enough to join us in retaliating with cultural terrorism.

CoAlpha Brotherhood emerged from the riffraff because we were tired of waiting. Cowards sit on the side. Good men take action. We know we are the last generation of good men before it’s all gone. Our problems must be fixed by us alone. To become the men who are capable of solving our own problems we must start with facing reality.

The reality is our CoAlpha idea has always been powerful, but never practical. We could not have recruited so many men over last five years from places all over the internet if there wasn’t already a thriving undercurrent of hate. We had an army of fanatically angry men march through our doors ready to kill, but we never gave them the ammunition to express their aggression. Our strategy of focusing only on a forum was too low of a target. A forum isn’t enough to wage warfare. Rhetoric alone doesn’t kill liberals. The original idea of a few brave men helping each other in real life turned out to be all talk and no action.

Almost no one was helped over the years. Yet a few gestures that have shined through. For example early on one CoAlpha helped another CoAlpha start his career by providing him a job. Someone else was given visa and travel finances to escape America. Another member was covertly banned from a liberal site that we all know, which masqueraded under the banner of free speech until CoAlpha members stood together and denounced the gutless site owner in public for his sniveling censorship. Small struggles like these prove that the right men are eager to take action when the right moment presents itself.

Passionate talk will not keep ideas like CoAlpha alive though. Any organization must deliver meaningful results on a regular basis. Without results a group is a hollow shell and every new recruit who bangs on our door will eventually be lost to some other cause that shows a stronger will. Men who support ideas like CoAlpha have a decision to make. We can set our sights higher or we can die off slowly in our own separate parts of the world.

For those willing to renew the struggle, we must use different tactics this time. A study of history has demonstrated what empowers common men to be feared. As reactionaries we have a duty to acknowledge history and respect it’s facts about human nature. We do not have the luxury of fantasizing about imaginary human potential like progressive lunatics. The answer in every era, in every time, in every part of the world, in every language, in every culture, in every society, in every race for molding men into a unified fist of power that is respected and feared has always been, and always will be, religion. Now before atheists here spit on this idea and walk out, realize that I don’t care about converting you. Nor do I care if you pray on your knees, have faith, worship a god or believe in hell. If you want to remain an atheist it’s not my concern.

Your beliefs don’t matter. They don’t matter because beliefs themselves don’t make religions indestructible. Islamic Jihadists don’t kill American soldiers by detonating a Quran. Christian crusaders didn’t slice through towns by holding a bible in their hands. And Israel didn’t club the ancient world into submission by swinging a Torah. Any religion that’s naïve enough to think their beliefs alone will shield them from outside mobs who want to kill them will be eaten alive. Victorious religions on the other hand survive and dominate by using a strategy independent of beliefs.

The winning strategy found in every religion revolves around three specific practices that empower common men to defeat the depraved world around them. There is no reason why a group of men can’t remain atheists but leverage these same practices. What specific practices did these religions follow that our CoAlpha Brotherhood lacked? Religions mandate regular meetings, enforce rituals, and share a sacred text.

Regular meetings foster friendship. Together a group sees it’s full strength. We are reminded that we are larger than ourselves and no one is left behind. Talking with each other gives us the opportunity to learn about each other’s problems on a personal level and offer direct welfare. There can be no community without regular meetings. An organization that cannot even rally members to meet is impotent.

Rituals are moral training exercises. They are shared experiences of the group. And shared expressions of commitment to the group.  Many secular groups also employ rituals. For example the US Marines have The Crucible. Greek fraternities have hazing. Citizens of most nations have voting. No meaningful society can hold together without shared rituals. A meeting by itself is not enough. Without rituals a meeting loses it’s structure and becomes just a social outlet. Good meetings offer both moral training and socializing.

Sacred texts provide a shared story that shows values of the group. It makes no difference at all whether you believe the story to be literally true or just a myth. What matters is only that there is a story and that all members can discuss the story as a way of relating to problems in our own lives.

If you want to live in a better world then joining a religion is the only answer. The alternatives to modern society offered by cultural dropouts are just as shallow as modern culture itself. If you disagree with religion being the only answer to rising above modern culture, then I’d like to hear your argument.
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Humanity
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I don't know how long, but I am certain we have a time limit. It might be 6 months, a year, a decade, or more. But what I am certain of is that we have a diminishing window. We do of course need a religion and a physical community. It's a two step process that belies how difficult it truly is. Ideally, we move together and dominate some small area in a foreign land. Once together, any plans for a religion should come together as it would make it easy to commit to. Or the religion could come first. I don't think it matters, but both are essential. If we can all get to one place, then having meetings, religious readings, reinforcing shared values, etc will be easy.

Interesting you mention MGTOW. Though of course I advocate "ghosting" whilst preparing an escape plan, MGTOW itself is a hotbed of modern culture that proposes no solutions, has no values, and has no real purpose. It will die when its members die. And many MGTOWs have feminist values as well. One bit of good news is that if we can escape Western countries, those types will be left behind. They and the feminists can have each other.

I was thinking of making a thread soon about a certain related issue, but I'll mention it here. Just getting away from the West is one issue. But it isn't always solved just by becoming an expat. It can follow you or you can end up surrounded by it. I am in my job. That's one reason this field of work is only partially useful for getting away from Western culture. Others that you work with and have to live with or otherwise interact with on a daily basis are usually the types you want to avoid. So all of us coming together, and moving somewhere and dominating the area is what we need. Going it alone is only a superficial band-aid to the problem.

As far as the passion of hate goes, I've tried for a long time to let go of hate. Time dims the passion of it somewhat, but it still remains. In the end, I hope hate can drive us to finally split from modern culture. Confronting modern culture, say from madness caused by being stuck in it, would not end well. It needs to push us forward and away from modern culture. An overt conflict would not be to our favor.



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Drealm
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Perhaps the window for ESL is closing, but I don’t know much about the issue. If I’d taken another path I could very well see myself doing ESL, so I do sympathize with the problem. This is actually a great example of a problem that someone should feel comfortable sharing in a religious meeting. A strong religion should create a space where people can express their problems and receive help. If someone brought this up at a religious meeting I would try offering advice.

I think there are two ways to start a group and you sort of described both of them. The first way is to create a "group" by forcing people to live together physically. I think the best example of this is the military. They take complete strangers, put them into the same physical location and force them to work together by threat of corporal punishment.

The second way to create a group is to let strangers bond together over something and become friends. This can only happen over time, with lots of contact and a common interest. I see religion as a perfect example of this because strangers bond over reading a book.

You said you don’t think it matters whether religion or a physical location comes first, but can you think of any groups that chose to live together first and then chose a group ideology?
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fschmidt
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Humanity wrote
We do of course need a religion and a physical community. It's a two step process that belies how difficult it truly is. Ideally, we move together and dominate some small area in a foreign land. Once together, any plans for a religion should come together as it would make it easy to commit to. Or the religion could come first. I don't think it matters, but both are essential. If we can all get to one place, then having meetings, religious readings, reinforcing shared values, etc will be easy.
What are your concrete ideas on this?  Honestly, I don't see any concrete possibilities for a physical community right now.  Am I missing something?  On the other hand, religion is something we could discuss and move forward on.
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Perhaps it would be good to have an idea of an ideal end product to work towards even if achieving it is not currently possible. Suppose any monetary issues could be sorted out so no-one was tied to a particular location. Where would one want to set up a co-alpha community and what form would it take?
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fschmidt
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For location, I would pick decent farmland in a stable country.  My choice would be either farmland in Texas or in Uruguay.

The community needs to make clear not just what it is against, but what it is for.  And that basically means agreeing on religious principles where religion isn't defined by belief, but rather by agreed moral rules, agreed rituals, and agreed sacred text.

This is a good book on forming intentional communities, but we are nowhere near doing this yet.
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Humanity
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Drealm wrote
You said you don’t think it matters whether religion or a physical location comes first, but can you think of any groups that chose to live together first and then chose a group ideology?
I don't know of any groups that came together first and then formed an ideology. But we already have our ideology. Religion would add to our ideology, but we know our morals, values, and principles already. Which is why I think for CoAlpha, it won't particularly matter if we accomplish religion or physical community first.

fschmidt wrote
What are your concrete ideas on this?  Honestly, I don't see any concrete possibilities for a physical community right now.  Am I missing something?  On the other hand, religion is something we could discuss and move forward on.
I don't think we should do anything drastic at the moment, and I don't think any of us would anyway. At the same time, it's always as possible as we are willing to make it. Preferences on where to live and finding ways to make a living there will be the hardest parts. Might as well focus on religion first since it doesn't require us all being together. I know for myself, I want to keep traveling and finding more options, at least for a while. I do think, however, that forming a religious group on the internet won't last. I can't imagine a strong, tight-knit religious group like the Amish or Salt Lake City Mormons being successful without their actual communities.

Cornfed wrote
Perhaps it would be good to have an idea of an ideal end product to work towards even if achieving it is not currently possible. Suppose any monetary issues could be sorted out so no-one was tied to a particular location. Where would one want to set up a co-alpha community and what form would it take?
Well, I could see the possibility for a community in East Asia. China would be decent for it. It has jobs and a still largely monogamous culture. I love the Philippines, and we could all have wives, harems, and basically whatever there, plus it is possible to be accepted there because it is not like most Asian countries. Thailand has tropical weather, some of the best food on the planet, and some jobs also.
I think I would like Mexico on down to the tip of South America. I haven't been to any of those countries yet, but I really want to. I couldn't make as much money doing TEFL work, but I think I would make that sacrifice if it meant community, wife and family. Other than those, I would want to avoid anglo countries entirely. I fear what they would do.
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Cornfed
Humanity wrote
Well, I could see the possibility for a community in East Asia. China would be decent for it. It has jobs and a still largely monogamous culture. I love the Philippines, and we could all have wives, harems, and basically whatever there, plus it is possible to be accepted there because it is not like most Asian countries. Thailand has tropical weather, some of the best food on the planet, and some jobs also.
I think I would like Mexico on down to the tip of South America. I haven't been to any of those countries yet, but I really want to. I couldn't make as much money doing TEFL work, but I think I would make that sacrifice if it meant community, wife and family. Other than those, I would want to avoid anglo countries entirely. I fear what they would do.
I would think that any colony established should have some ability to defend itself from local politics, have the possibility of lasting and governing itself to some extent indefinitely and have the possibility of surviving an end of civilization as we know it scenario. For various reasons I would think the idea would be to found it around a security company and alternative farming/energy ventures on somewhat isolated marginal land. Out of your suggestions, the Philippines and parts of South America would perhaps be the most promising.
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Drealm
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Humanity wrote
I don't know of any groups that came together first and then formed an ideology. But we already have our ideology. Religion would add to our ideology, but we know our morals, values, and principles already. Which is why I think for CoAlpha, it won't particularly matter if we accomplish religion or physical community first.
I think we've always been united on what we don't like. But CoAlpha has never stood for anything specific. In this respect we're very similar to MGTOW.

Are you suggesting that we can somehow turn the content of this forum into the equivalent of a religious book? If we had meetings how would these be run? What rituals would you propose?
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Humanity
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Drealm wrote
Humanity wrote
I don't know of any groups that came together first and then formed an ideology. But we already have our ideology. Religion would add to our ideology, but we know our morals, values, and principles already. Which is why I think for CoAlpha, it won't particularly matter if we accomplish religion or physical community first.
I think we've always been united on what we don't like. But CoAlpha has never stood for anything specific. In this respect we're very similar to MGTOW.

Are you suggesting that we can somehow turn the content of this forum into the equivalent of a religious book? If we had meetings how would these be run? What rituals would you propose?
It's strange because MGTOW did actually have at one point a manifesto or something similar stating what it stood for, which including instilling femininity in women, masculinity in men, and limited government. It didn't take long before MGTOWs just stopped caring about everything though.

I have already written material for an anti-feminist, CoAlpha book. Not a religious text, but more of a book for information/solutions for hopeless young men who desire escaping and building a life. About 32,000 words so far, but it is not organized at all yet. But I would certainly write a religious text. It's doable.

As far as meetings in real life, I think two different kinds are good:

1. Something like sermons. Something to encourage and lift each other up with. Topics like escaping the west, anti-feminism, foreign dating, etc. And using our religious text during the sermons also.

2. Personal meetings where we help each other with advice, discussing solutions, etc.

Meetings can always work over skype, but I think they are not powerful enough without a real life presence. Otherwise, I think it is more like chatting online.

Rituals, I'm not sure. But I like the idea of rituals. I don't know much about them.  
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We should build a fort. It will be the last bastion of defense against Western culture.
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venice
yeah good idea, then you can all die lonely and no one will care
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I wouldn't recommend Uruguay. The place is plagued with Communists, including the President himself.

BTW, I see that Kim Jong-Il took the bait over at HA :D One post and he banned me again- because, in it, I called him out for his hypocritical behaviour. He started a thread about "why blacks are so angry and violent", after having banned who-knows how many of us just for saying far milder and more constructive criticisms toward that ethnic group.

Zboy is a sad little thing who takes out his frustrations on strangers via Internet, because he would be absolutely incapable of doing so in realtime. Ned Flanders could destroy him.

I started lurking there again when I found out secondhand that you were the new mod, and that he had been relegated to some "VIP" (lolz) section "just for expats". I didn't realise that the feisty little Korean still had the privelege of running around banning people as he pleases...but that just made the whole thing all the funnier :D